Lays Potato Chips Conspiracy: Pig Fat in Potato Chip Pakistan
May 04, 2009
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Spreading rumors in Pakistan is so easy and mostly done on Religious basis… after lot of FATWAs against Hindi songs and PepSi, altest Rumours are about My Favorite Popato Chips LAYS…
My friend told me that Lays Got PIG Fats and I said “Can’t you See HALAL seal on it” so I totally denied the rumours but when I came home today, I Google it and Found this: http://alaiwah.wordpress.com/2009/03/06/pig-fat-in-pakistani-chips/ and all my question are answered in comments…
Keep Enjoying Lays without any Fear…
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Lays Paksitan is for sure halal, people who are misleading public that its haram should be strongly condemned. This chain should be stoped here otherwise tomorrow another company would suffer. And just think, no one knows Dr. Amjad .
For all Halaal related queries, you may contact the Halaal Helpline on helpline@sanha.org.za
Remember the Islamic Rule, “Verify Before You Amplify”!
@ osman: I agree with you.Who is Dr. Amjad? Had he been real he would have come out and stood by his words. He would have not missed any chance of missing out the bouts of fame his research had brought to him. He would have been proud of himself for being our HERO.But Dr. Khan seems too shy with the public or maybe too much of a saint to accept our gratitude! Who is he? Where is he? And how authentic is his source? If he is right about his ingredient debate why not anybody else has come up with a similar stance to fight the several proofs presented by the company?
Does one report by some anonymous source and utterly unauthentic reference become voice of millions and millions of Muslims? When will we start seeing things from the lens of sense and not from behind the covers
plz provide me some athentic prove that lays are free of pig fat specially certificates from Saudhi Arabia.
Adeel, I have seen some solid proofs provided by Lays Pakistan when I contacted them at pak.customerservice@intl.pepsico.com
I also contacted SANHA, a very reliable source for halal verification. I am satisfied now and enjoying Lays with my family.
For those people who are making it doubtful should stop doing it. Don’t consider google as reference, everyone can tag any false information.
Hope this propoganda should stop here and we should stop reffering Dr. Amjad who is no body but a fake name.
Remember his email is wondering since seven years but body could catch him.
Regards
Dear ISLAMIC boys and girls Umar shafique you are an edieed boy you eat haram edieed you are a hindu shut your mouth you eat haraaaaaaam edieed edieed when you eat lays your mouth will be smeely and another time you message my muslims boys to eat haram i dua to you go in dozakh edieed
lays chips contains 631pig !so it means it is haram . i m requesting to all muslims dont eat lays chips .
Dear friends,,, Lays Chips are Halal and checked by Junaid Jamshed Ex. Pakistani Singer……… So enjoy eating.
lays chips contains 631pig !so it means it is haram . i m requesting to all muslims dont eat lays chips .
E100, E110, E120, E 140, E141, E153, E210, E213, E214, E216, E234,
E252,E270, E280, E325, E326, E327, E334, E335, E336, E337, E422, E430,
E431, E432, E433, E434, E435, E436, E440, E470, E471, E472, E473,
E474, E475,E476, E477, E478, E481, E482, E483, E491, E492, E493, E494,
E495, E542,E570, E572, E631, E635, E904
you guyz r damn shit! bloody pigs you guyz just forget everything abt halal and haram…seal?!!! u guyz r terrible and u will suffer u have example of palestine…maybe u will see ur luv one like this so just rock!!!
and who the hell is junaid jamshed to decide whats gud and wrong? i m not sure but i cant trust that person who tell that islamic banking is fine according to islamic law…thats shit!!! i bet u real islamic banking dont exist and it cant they will not let this terrible thaing happen….
Sir I really wonder why so many people are out there to prove that Lays are Halal. May be this has become a mindset in many Muslims to prove themselves moderate and tolerant even at the cost of important religious beliefs and cultural values.
I would like to respond to many giving references and focusing on oil only. They do not have a posotive and evidentry proof of these chips being halal neither they are owners of the company still they are so desperate to prove them halal and that people should eat them. Sir many people has written in a forceful and confident manner but, perhaps, in haste for reason better known to them. Please take a moment to read the information you have given references and addresses here and you will find out that although it is not confirmed that the particular taste enhancers used in Lays supplied in Pakistan are made from Pig meat yet there is a strong possibility for the same. Claim that E631 ( Sodium Inosinate) DOES NOT involve any animal products are proved false by the source you referred to i.e. http://www.food-info.net/uk/e/e631.htm. Further if animal fat ( pig fat being cheapest) is major ingrediant then why a particular fish is imported and used for which neither the manufecturer claimed nor is it a sensible business strategy.
One of the websites ( http://www.food-info.net/uk/e/e631 )referred to by advicates of Lays provides the following information:
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E 631
Origin:
Sodium salt of inosinic acid (E630), a natural acid, that is mainly present in animals. Commercially prepared from meat or fish (sardines). May also be produced by bacterial fermentation of sugars.
Dietary Restrictions:
Inosinates are generally produced from meat, but partly also from fish. They are thus not suitable for vegans and vegetarians, and in most cases not suitable for Jews, Muslims and Hindus, depending on the origin of the product. Only the producer can provide information on the origin.
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Please read the information yourself before spreading it and do not pass on misleading information that can result in harm to others religious practices. It is not allowed in any religion to whatever extent moderate it is.
Some religious people are trying to help Lays in this controversy. Jamia Asharfia has reportedly given fatwa in theur favor. May be, though reports are there that they denied it, yet if you ask someone we use halal oil etc, so is it right for the muslims to eat. They will say yes. Religious celebrity Junaid Jamshaid is appearing in an advertisement. Whether it’s for commercial gains or public service in favor of the multinational giant Pepsi, he used Allah’s words which he himself ignored. He claimed that he verified. But, what and froom where, he never mentioned. He mentioned oil but was ignorant of the real issue that is of the taste enhancer. May be he is still convinced on Lays being halal stil he and other perople witrh religious images and offices should act very responsibily as much more responsibility rests on their shoulder’s than an ordinary man. If they say it’s halal, people might accept, that’s why the company approached them, but then if it’s not halal, they are going to be held for so many haram eating resulting from it. And they should not forget Allah and Prophet’s are very clear that if there is a doubt of haram and halal, one should leave it (rather take it on a benefit of doubt.)
is this true hat there are pi fats in lays chips. if yes than tell me on this email sharafmemon@yahoo.com . i will be very pleased to you . you can also discuss with me on this question.
i think that the lays chips are haram so not only masala flavour every flvour contains pig fat . when junaid jumshaid came on the Tv and said that lays chips are 100% halal but in real he spoke lie and got a lot of money so he is taking money but haraam so please send my message to others.
do not eat lays becaus our last prophet had said us not to eat pig
@ Imran: Quite an impressive post you have written but sadly it is too misleading. Instead of forcing us to accept what YOU think is right, I would have appreciated had you given valid proofs like Lay’s has been providing us for much time now.
You have raised a very serious issue. You have doubted Jamias authenticity and credibility of passing there verdict of true Islam. We all know that these Jamias have a complete grip on Islam and they are always in a better position to judge and evaluate. If eating Lay’s is haram….doubting the very fabric of our Islamic centres which impart religious knowledge to many is in what context right?
Also Jamia Ashrafia has not REPORTEDLY given fatwa……they actually HAVE GIVEN FATWA regarding this matter. Another prestigious Jamia Uloom Islamia Allama Binori Town has verified that Lay’s is free of all animal meat fat and contains only vegetable fat. The Jamia is of the view that Lay’s uses E 635 as an ingredient which is made from the combination of two ingredients E 631 and E 627. It has elaborated that the basic ingredient E631 is derived from vegetable fat. The Jamia has further explained that Lay’s purchase E 635 from its flavor house IFF. The ingredient is provided to IFF by a renowned company Ajinomoto based in Thailand.
Jamia Binoria has stated in its report that if the ingredient E 635 is derived from vegetable fat and that Lay’s purchase it from known sources then there are no chances of animal meat fat neither in the ingredient E635 or any other.
Jamia Uloom Islamia Allama Binori Town is a renowned centre of Islam not only in Pakistan but all over the world. Jamia Binori is widely recognized as one of the most influential centres of Muslim ideology in the world. The Jamia imparts knowledge on each and every doctrine of Islam and so far has produced hundreds and thousands of Muslim scholars. These scholars continue to serve the Muslim world with their insightful knowledge pertaining to Islam.
How will you know doubt the fatwas given by two authentic Islamic sources? I question.
Please clear yourself first and try to be reasonable.
Regards,
Humeira Aslam.
Pls read my submissions
http://kashifiat.wordpress.com/2009/06/18/the-reality-of-lays-chips-controversy/
We already are a confused nation on the ‘haram and halal’. Seafood items that need not much scientific research, to ascertain the edibility are the unresolved mystery yet. Some quarters stil plant doubts even about the chicken eggs.
I forsee an uending debate on the issues like ‘lays’, further perplexing this nation.
Dear humeira aslam, its is not about personal likes and dislikes or personal assaults like I feel we have indulged in. It is a matter of belief of two major religions of this world-Jews and Muslims. I still wonder why we, muslims are so keep in proving our religion and/or fellow muslims wrong and others right.
Anyways, this point is very simple. Thanks to Lays manufacturers that they have printed the ingredients on the back of their packes or you would have even asked me ” prove these chips contain E631″. Of course I could never prove it unless I spend quite a sum and take the sample to some place with the facility and then you would say “I don’t believe this report because Lays have given us a better report” this is all ridiculous.
Well coming to the point please refer to the Lays Chips pack and read E631 printed on it. Now simply go and search for its ingredients. I strongly reject your claim on behalf of Jamia because almost all the independent and impartial sources, most of which are non-muslims, hold that E631 is derived from animal source mainly MEAT. Please refer to wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E631 and the same site someone has mentioned here in favor of Lays, please check it out at http://www.food-info.net/uk/e/e631.htm. Please do visit some other independent and out of this debate information sources also and do not rely on producer sources as they have their stake to save.
If you take a minute out and search the independent sources on the net you will find, as I did, that E631 is MAINLY prepared form sources that are strongly doubted to be HARAM form Jews and Muslims and are also avoided by some Hindus. In the countries where they are manufactured have pig fat available and widely used which is much cheaper than other fats and fish. I wonder why, then, the producer will import expensive fish meat from abroad and make the flavor from it.
I have to reiterate two this here: Firstly, not all the flavors available in Pakistan have this suspicious content but as far as I have noticed only the red pack of MASALAH flavor contains E631. Secondly, it MAY be produced from halah sources but other sources are in abundance and are real cheap. A strong probability exists that it is made form haram sources. And if one believes in the Holy Quran he must believe in the verse in which Allah Subanawatallah said that if you have a doubt (for something haram or halal ie right or wrong) then leave it means don’t do it. Now I believe that quitting eating Lays otr a flavor of it is not a hard thing to do against risking ones beliefs and practically speaking health too. Rest, you have access to all those suspicious food items in Pakistan also. So, if you still wanna have them, it’s your decision.
PS. The fatwas are based on the information provided to them. Any fatwa giving authority have not visited the manufecturing facility or conducted laboritory examinination. If they are asked ” we make this flavor from vegitable and chips are fried in vegitable oil, are they HALAL”. What would they say?
My Dear brother & Sister,
I think now this topic is closed and proved by company that lays is 100% halal and it is also announce by Junaid Jamshaid on TV after his verification that Lays is 100% halal so kindly please leave this topic and talk on other serious issues that we are facing in Pakistan.
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I like the arguments from both who are in favor and those who are against. But I would like to ask Ms Humeira Aslam if she is spokesperson for Lays Pakistan or is Mr. Imran a spokesperson for a competitor company of Lays? if not, and if you both don’t have any vested interest in this topic then thank you guys for providing in depth info/knowledge about this topic!
I am not into this debate of Haram/Halal but I would like to ask us that can’t we live without eating yet another product of a multinational company? We are already under heavy debt and every pakistani owes ~ little under $1000 to the lenders and one of the main reasons of this debt is the loan in the form of the establishment of subsidiaries of these mutinational companies. We are already a big consumer society who loves to buy “foreign ka item” and hates to buy indigneous products and behave and look like an indigneous. Can’t we eat local made chips or they are less tasty and/or unhealthy?
It’s not just about Lays, there are hundreds of other food, health, cosmetics etc products that are suspicious but being consumed with great pride becuase either those are made “not in pakistan” or by not by a pakistani company.
I understand that many multinational companies have invested in our country and have provided jobs to a good portion of the population but in return they have funneled Billions of (Billion with a ‘B’) dollars abroad. If that money had stayed with in the country then todays over all economical condition of pakistan would have been entirely different.
Anway, I think I just tried to make a point here. Any comments are welcomed!
Assalamualaikum,
I think that effort should be made to make a final conclusion about these reports whether they are correct or not. As we are muslims and eating halal is important and a must clause for our prayers to be accepted by ALLAH RABBULALAMEEN . plus eating Pig is not allowed in Islam becuse it makes people shameless and get them far away from our true Lord. So I request all the members or who ever is the part of this chain whether you do research or whatever! Please show the truth
lays chips are 100% haram because it contains pig fats so dont eat lays chips just eat kurleez
After research it has been proven that Lays are manufactured in Pakistan but the (taste Enhancer) that is used in it is brought from abroad which contain Pork. So it is now proved that Layz is HARAM to eat.
Let me tell you that taste enhancer is either made of vegetable or Meat, and it was tested that “taste enhancer used for Lays are of meet” and the cheapest fat is of PORK for making this taste enhancer. Now what is the doubt left????/
I appeal all muslims to stay away from LAYS and promote your ow country’s HALAL FOOD
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asalam-u-elikum,
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yar kaho piyoo aesh karoo yah sab jhoot hay lays lahore main production ho rahi hay or muslim he banaty hain isay yah sab jhoot hay asee he kase company ko badnam karna hay soo kaho piyo aesh karoo logo ki batoo main na ahoo
Listen all dears.
Through the research we have got 100 percent conclusion that lays chips are 100 percent pure and the material which have been used in lays chips is halal.
The questions which arises in your mind about the lays chips that the lays chips are haram and the pig fat is available in the lays chips, So it,s completely wrong.please erase these questions and purchase the lays chips.
Thanks
From Mr. Wasim to all Pakistanis